One of my favorite pastimes is debating the All-Time All-Stars. Here are the ground rules:
Put together a 25-man roster of the greatest players for a particular franchise. Organize them into a starting lineup, 5-man rotation (and closer), bullpen and bench players. (alternative iterations of this game: AL/NL All-time all stars, or all-stars by decade, etc.--to be tackled another day, perhaps)
- Player must have played for that team during the time that he put up his great historical numbers (Babe Ruth can't be the all-time left fielder for the Braves, for example)
- Player must have played that position during the time that he put up his great historical numbers (you can have Yaz and Rice both on the All-time Red Sox if you want, but remember that when Yaz won the Triple Crown he played left, not first. If Yaz plays first on that team, you get the stats from the years that he actually played first). And no playing out of position--if he was a center fielder his whole career, you can't decide to have him in right for the All-time team.
- Player cannot be on two teams' All-time rosters, even if he was great for two teams. (Steve Carlton was great for the Cardinals and Phillies, but you have to pick one for his all-time spot on a roster) 4. A non-rule--Bob and I used to do this from memory, but Bob remembers EVERYTHING, so that isn't a fair limitation. Go ahead, use baseball-reference.com, or ESPN.com or whatever you want. Bob can do it from memory, but the rest of us don't need to.
So, to get the ball rolling, here is a start to the all-time Yankees. You guys should do YOUR teams (but you can complain/correct/cajole about any other team if you want)...
Starters (though not a lineup yet):
1B Lou Gehrig
2B Bobby Richardson (Billy Martin?)
3B Alex Rodriguez
SS Derek Jeter
LF Dave Winfield?
CF Mickey Mantle (or maybe DiMaggio in Center and Mantle in right)
RF Babe Ruth
C Yogi Berra
What about Posada--do you need a third catcher on an all-time team?
Closer: Mariano Rivera (with Goose Gossage as a setup man!)
I'm not good at pitchers, and I'm going from memory, so I'll leave that to you all to fill in. Comment away!